Ok, I am so tired of seeing motorcycle passengers without proper gear. Over this past summer, I've seen so many, especially young women, riding as passengers in capri pants, flip flops and tiny little shirts w/ their midriffs and back flesh sticking out waiting to be sraped along the road. What gets me is then I see the person they are desperately hanging onto has full leathers and a $500 helmet!
While I think the motorcyclist should care or know enough to protect his/her passenger, at a certain point it's all about personal responsibility and knowledge. I realize there are all kinds of different people in this world with different beliefs, but it pains me to see people who will just hop on the back of a bike w/ out any protection and put so much faith in another person's abilities.
Ok, I am done.
While I think the motorcyclist should care or know enough to protect his/her passenger, at a certain point it's all about personal responsibility and knowledge. I realize there are all kinds of different people in this world with different beliefs, but it pains me to see people who will just hop on the back of a bike w/ out any protection and put so much faith in another person's abilities.
Ok, I am done.
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Re: Unprotected passengers. This is a rant, you've been warned
Tue, September 13, 2005 - 12:18 PMAmen sister!
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Re: Unprotected passengers. This is a rant, you've been warned
Tue, September 13, 2005 - 1:03 PMit bugs me too. totally LAME.
people don't get on the back of my bike w/o full gear on. if they don't have it, they don't get a ride. that's my personal decision as the pilot. -
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Re: Unprotected passengers. This is a rant, you've been warned
Tue, September 13, 2005 - 2:17 PMI always have a spare set of leather motorcycle gloves under my seat. And all passengers must wear a jacket, no matter how hot. When my girlfriend and I got together 10 years ago, one of the first presents I bought her was a really good helmet. -
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Re: Unprotected passengers. This is a rant, you've been warned
Tue, September 13, 2005 - 2:50 PMi've seen too much leg, ankle and foot damage to allow someone to wear only jeans/street shoes if it's anything more than a putt up and down the block. even then, it depends on the person. as a general rule, jacket/helmet/gloves/heavy pants/boots required at all times. no street shoes.
some people are in total denial about the realities of motorcycling. even falling off at a standstill and getting your ankle caught under the bike can be a really bad thing. i dropped my bike on a really weird slope where someone decided there MUST be a stop sign. i picked it up but it started rolling so i ended up dropping it again...on myself. the foot peg pinned me down right on my ankle bone and ground my knee into the pavement. OUCH. if i wasn't wearing fully armored boots (Sidi Vertebrae II Airs) and my Vansons, it would have broken bones, rash and rehab. i walked away from it with no damage. anyone can make a mistake like that - n00b or veteran.
preferably, my GF would have her own damn bike and wouldn't bother me to maintenance it as she'd do it on her own. hell, she can do mine too. ;) -
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Re: Unprotected passengers. This is a rant, you've been warned
Sat, October 8, 2005 - 5:08 PMlast year while i was in my MSF course there was a couple riding a harley along the road with the chick BAREFOOT in a BIKINI with a skull cap on while feeding her topless driver a hamburger....
effing recackulous morons.
these are the type of people that want me to believe in darwinism. -
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Re: Unprotected passengers. This is a rant, you've been warned
Fri, October 14, 2005 - 9:59 AMI hear you! Have a little more concern for the person you put on your bike! I always have an extra full face & leather jacket.
I used to teach the MSF course and had a full face helmet that my father had on when he hit a deer on a country road one day.....I think it helped to convince some of those that hought that the brain buckets were a great idea for a helmet or a 2nd helmet - unless of course you don't like the skin on your face.
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Re: Unprotected passengers. This is a rant, you've been warned
Thu, October 20, 2005 - 10:58 PMThat is why I ride my own, no more going along for the ride, I go where I please now....gotta love it -
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Re: Unprotected passengers. This is a rant, you've been warned
Sat, November 12, 2005 - 4:35 PMHey Y'all,
I knew I would find some righteous women bikers here in tribe-land. Just took my first ride in years...on the back of a friend's bike. We are heading out on the "Love Ride" tomorrow in LA, and I am trying to be well prepared and protected with a wardrobe that is not particularly "leather-heavy". I did read all of this thread, and am happy to say I did just fine today protection-wise. I think I can put something adequate together for tomorrow, but would love some direction on purchasing the basics, for the future...I am hooked! I felt so incredibly comfortable and natural on that bike. I do have some experience riding with an older brother, and then in college riding a moped to get around...all the exposure with none of the power or maneuverability.
So, boots first...any tips?
By the way, my friend is a great rider, super courteous and attentive, and he supplied me with an excellent helmet...but other than that I don't think his extra gear will fit me.
Any advice appreciated!
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Re: Unprotected passengers. This is a rant, you've been warned
Mon, November 14, 2005 - 7:16 AMWell, I will tell you first what NOT to buy...do not buy any Harley Davidson brand boots...they look cute but I know of structure problems with both men and women's, specifically the zippers. (I actually wear a pair, but only after taking them to the local show repair to modify them)
I am happiest with a pair of steel toed linemans safety boots that lace up the front. I personally can't wear the pull on type because my arches are too high to get them on. I would actually look for a safety boot store, like Iron Age, the price and quality were better than I could find anywhere else. -
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Re: Unprotected passengers. This is a rant, you've been warned
Wed, November 16, 2005 - 8:02 AMKrystal,
Thank you for the boot advice...it is helpful to know what to avoid right off the bat. I will check out Iron Age as soon as I can. I had a fantastic time on the ride and can't wait to get back on a bike. We took the backroads home to avoid the freeway mayhem and it was magical.
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Re: Unprotected passengers. This is a rant, you've been warned
Tue, November 22, 2005 - 2:27 PMI buy Sketcher brand boots. During the winter and fall months they usually come out with some heavy duty womens leather boots, and not the high heel type. They are more for cruiser style gear though. -
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Re: Unprotected passengers. This is a rant, you've been warned
Thu, November 24, 2005 - 8:46 AMI bought a pair of Candies boots: tall ankle, lace up, plenty of sole (close to 2 inches deep) and they have a good tread. Price was around $60. Lots of toe space to keep you comfy. I'm vertically challenged and these help keep my butt off the ground.
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Re: Unprotected passengers. This is a rant, you've been warned
Fri, November 25, 2005 - 8:07 PMI'm so glad to hear that you're hooked, and even more so that you want to get proper gear. Some people might mock me as the kind of person who puts on the heavy gear just to ride down the street to get milk, but 1) you never know when you're going to go down or meet an idiot on the road and 2) most accidents happen within 6 miles of a rider's home. Anyway, about gear:
Basically, if you like a certain body part the way it is now, and want to keep it that way, get gear to protect it. Like your hands functional, intact and attractive? Get good gloves and snug them down tightly on your wrists with the velcro straps or wrist cincers, so that they don't pull off in a crash. Like your feet with all toes and dermis intact? Get good boots with ankle protection, preferably ones designed for motorcycle riders with extra ankle reinforcement, etc. Like your legs smooth instead of the texture of sandpaper? Wear highly abrasion-resistant pants, with armor if you can.Draggin' Jeans: If you're not going to get cordura pants/overpants, or leather pants/chaps, I'd recommend Draggin' Jeans from dragginjeans.com. They are Kevlar-lined at the butt, and all the way around at the knees, where most abrasion happens during an accident. They also have optional, CE approved knee armor. They also have Kevlar shirts and Draggin' Jackets, but I don't have personal experience with those.
If all this gear sounds a bit too expensive for an occasional ride, I'd actually recommend that you stay off bikes until you've thrown together a reasonable set of gear. Some would call me overly cautious, but road rash (the least of your worries in an accident) is terribly painful (even if it's only the size of a quarter), and can leave the affected area permanently disfigured. Good gear can save you lots of time off work healing, pain, and of course, can save your life.
One of my co-workers slid out on the freeway going 70 miles an hour while wearing an Aerostich Roadcrafter suit, full-face helmet, Sidi boots and good quality leather gloves. The bike sustained a lot of damage, as did his gear, but he got up and walked away with nothing more than a few bruises. The gear took the hit for him. If he'd been wearing a leather jacket without armor, jeans and Converse shoes, he'd have ended up in intensive care at the very least.
So: full-face helmet (yes, I mean FULL-face), gloves, jacket, pants/chaps, and boots. Boot recommendations? I have Cruiser Boots, with the zipper up the front. They're great boots, but are not 100% waterproof as guaranteed because water comes in around the seam of the toe. I've heard good things about Sidi, but I don't like how they look.
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Re: Unprotected passengers. This is a rant, you've been warned
Fri, December 16, 2005 - 4:42 PMseriously! i hate to see passengers with no protection. that goes for the rider as well! how can you ride with just a t-shirt and shorts??
sorry if i'm hating on anyone out there, but its no fun to get road rash.